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[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:01:49 +0200
] [ 823385 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] Martin - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:33:05 +0100, this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote: >Magda |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:59:23 +0200
] [ 823384 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] Martin - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:17:33 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: >On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:15:25 +0200, Magda |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:58:11 +0200
] [ 823383 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] Martin - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:34:14 +0100, this_address_is_for_spam@yahoo.com (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote: >Jim Ley |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:57:28 +0200
] [ 823382 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] Martin - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:51:29 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: >On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 02:55:34 GMT, "Timothy Kroesen" > |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:51:42 GMT
] [ 823381 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:44:10 +0200, Martin |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:50:46 +0200
] [ 823380 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] Tom Peel - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - Jim Ley wrote: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:35:56 +0200, Magda |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:44:10 +0200
] [ 823379 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] Martin - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:57:24 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: >On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:47:47 +0200, Martin |
[ 29 Sep 2005 02:25:43 -0700
] [ 823377 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] "george" - Re: Accomadation Bavaria at Christmas Zeit? - Marc wrote: We will want to see Rothenburg and Neuschwanstein Can you make any recomendations for accomadations or activities or sites? The Villa Jaegerhaus in Hohenschwangau is wonderful for its views of Neuschwanstein Castle. It's an excellent hotel and the food is also excellent. Make sure to get a room on the upper floor facing Neuschwanstein Castle and not facing Hohensch... |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:23:43 +0100
] [ 823376 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] mike o'sullivan - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - al-Farrob wrote: > >>How can I put this in a simple enough way! How about this - I'm a >>freeborn law-abiding Englishman. I know who I am, and unless I break the >>law, do not feel it necessary to prove my identity in order to be >>allowed to live my life in peace. > > I understand the english point of view. But.... in Portugal we still have an > ID Card with photo and fingertips... |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:18:41 GMT
] [ 823375 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:57:24 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: >On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:47:47 +0200, Martin |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:15:47 +0100
] [ 823374 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] mike o'sullivan - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h offy wrote: > Magda |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:11:31 +0100
] [ 823373 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] mike o'sullivan - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - Go Fig wrote: > > Humm... the government (Crown) grants you your Rights. The U.S. > Constitution was a break from this whereby the Rights/Privileges are > expressly given to the State by the people. > But we have something rather older, Magna Carta, followed by the Bill of Rights of 1689, the main provisions of which were incorporated in admittedly more comprehensive US Consti... |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:05:56 +0100
] [ 823372 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] mike o'sullivan - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com wrote: > Magda wrote: > >>On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:01:20 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, mike o'sullivan >> |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:57:24 GMT
] [ 823371 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:47:47 +0200, Martin |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:51:01 +0100
] [ 823368 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] "Keith W" - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - "Magda" |
[ Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:47:47 +0200
] [ 823367 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ] Martin - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:25:37 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote: >So everyone who forgets their ID card will be treated as terrorists - >the Dutch have had 60,000 this year, there are 1/5th the number of >Dutch as British - so that would suggest the British might get 300,000 >a year - there aren't enough police cells, let alone enough police >time for them to treat all such cas... |
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