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[ 28 Sep 2005 07:44:21 -0700 ] [ 823099 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com" - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - Magda wrote: [snip] > I have carried ID all times since I turned 18 and have never given it a second thought. > Perhaps the paranoid members of this group can tell me what's the fuss all about? I cannot count the number of times that women with which I was socializing had no ID, no money, no keys, nothing but the clothes on their otherwise beautiful bodies. Of coures the int...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:28:23 +0100 ] [ 823097 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"The Todal" - Re: De Menezes Family arrive in London - "Padraig Breathnach" wrote in message news:ba9lj1peglmfga04e8lk5mrulifvbnd8de@4ax.com... > "Briancel" wrote: > > [top-posting fixed] > >>"Miss L. Toe" wrote in message >>news:433a6e30$0$29659$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net... >>> >>> "Briancel" wrote in message >>> news:...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:21:22 GMT ] [ 823095 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:13:13 +0200, Magda wrote: >On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:54:19 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : > > ... On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:30:05 +0200, Magda > ... wrote: > ... > ... >I have carried ID all times since I turned 18 and have never given ...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:14:44 GMT ] [ 823094 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"Casey" - PayPal ATM card in Europe - Having been burned by my credit union ATM card not working in Europe, I want to find an ATM card that is known to work. Does anyone here have a PayPal ATM card, and does it work in Europe? Any other recommendations for major national (USA) online banks? Casey . ...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:16:57 +0100 ] [ 823093 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Padraig Breathnach - Re: De Menezes Family arrive in London - "Briancel" wrote: [top-posting fixed] >"Miss L. Toe" wrote in message >news:433a6e30$0$29659$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net... >> >> "Briancel" wrote in message >> news:IKt_e.3382$DO.3335@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net... >>> They are here for their big payday. >> >> Just out of interest what do people ...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:12:38 GMT ] [ 823092 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:11:19 +0200, Magda wrote: >I'm really sorry that we do not live in a tiny village in the Middle Ages, where everybody >would know everybody else... But when the village population reaches 6.5 billion it gets a >little hard to know the neighbours and what they are up to. an ID card does nothing to help you to know your neighbours - are...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:11:19 +0200 ] [ 823090 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Magda - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:56:59 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, "Keith W" arranged some electrons, so they looked like this: ... Its not a matter of paranoia. The crux of the matter is that it allows ... any tin pot official to stop you and demand you identify ... youself at their whim. If someone stops me and asks who I am ... my knee jerk res...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:04:24 GMT ] [ 823089 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"Casey" - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - > Also, one wonders why the police found it necessary to stop 50,000 people > since January. Was this a random check, stopping apparently law-abiding > citizens? No, I'll bet they were not all law-abiding citizens. Europe and the USA both have problems with illegal immigration. If a country does not secure its borders, then the only other recourse is to have ID checking. In the...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:54:19 GMT ] [ 823087 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:30:05 +0200, Magda wrote: >I have carried ID all times since I turned 18 and have never given it a second thought. >Perhaps the paranoid members of this group can tell me what's the fuss all about? Where do you carry it when you're out jogging or cycling - do Authoritarian states insist on cycling shorts with ID card pockets? Why...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:36:47 GMT ] [ 823086 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"Briancel" - Re: De Menezes Family arrive in London - It amuses me how easily money soothes pain "Miss L. Toe" wrote in message news:433a6e30$0$29659$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net... > > "Briancel" wrote in message > news:IKt_e.3382$DO.3335@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net... >> They are here for their big payday. >> >> > > Just out of interest what do people think woul...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:38:51 +0200 ] [ 823085 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Magda - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:13:26 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, Paul Dwerryhouse arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... " BruceB" writes: ... ... >Why don't you just carry ID and not worry about it? ... ... British and Irish citizens don't have ID cards. Try carrying a passport around ... with you every...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:28:20 -0700 ] [ 823083 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
bill frogg - Re: Hotel recommendations Rome - On 2005-09-27 10:46:19 -0700, "Webmaster http://www.discover.it" said: > >> To give you an example of price-amenity-location I'll use the hotel >> I've stayed at on my last 4 trips. >> >> The Hotel Kennedy (www.hotelkennedy.net) isn't centrally located (1.8km >> from the Roman Forum) but a short bus, metro or taxi to the main >> attactions. >> It's right...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:13:26 +1000 ] [ 823082 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Paul Dwerryhouse - Re: ID card clampdown by Dutch police - " BruceB" writes: >Why don't you just carry ID and not worry about it? British and Irish citizens don't have ID cards. Try carrying a passport around with you every day. It's incredibly annoying, and you run a good risk of it being pick-pocketed. Frankly, during the time in which I lived in the Netherlands, it was easier to flout the law - a law whic...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:22:04 +0200 ] [ 823079 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Magda - Re: living in europe - On 28 Sep 2005 13:12:24 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Des Small arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : ... ... Its made you go blind at las't, isnt i't? Keep trying... . ...

[ Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:12:38 +0100 ] [ 823078 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"Jerry and Ce" - Re: Aberystwyth - > Give my regards to the squwawking seagulls! Will do, thanks for extra info. Jerry . ...

[ 28 Sep 2005 13:12:24 +0100 ] [ 823077 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Des Small - Re: living in europe - Magda writes: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:48:01 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, The Reids > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this : > > > ... In many, many cases the points you make evaporate under > ... examination. I remember the first time I crossed swords with you, > ... something about fuel consumption IIRC, afte...

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