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[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:57:47 +0200 ] [ 829250 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Martin - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:32:48 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)" wrote: >If you think that it is true, just what is the 'better' job that >a 50K pa Business Analysist can do when his job is >outsourced? 4 hours teaching a day and begging? -- Martin . ...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:55:20 GMT ] [ 829248 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:33:40 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: >But it's different when things move to a completely different region. >The flow outward must be matched by a flow inward; if that criterion >is not satisfied, there will be a net shift in wealth. Only if "wealth" is a constant, wealth has never been a constant, if country X gets richer, it doesn't mean coun...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:54:41 +0100 ] [ 829246 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
DDT Filled Mormons - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:29:58 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: >DDT Filled Mormons writes: > >> Into legitimate areas like advertising, design, administration, >> taxes... > >What does "legitimate" mean? I don't know. I just like words with multiple syllables. >And if they are profits, why are they paying for overhead? What on earth are you talking about? ...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:49:01 GMT ] [ 829243 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:32:48 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)" wrote: >"Jim Ley" wrote in message >news:4350c7ca.248908140@news.individual.net... >> but this is based solely on the supposition that a job moving from >> area A to area B, harms A completely. > >Stating this theory again does not make my point wrong, >because it i...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:43:30 +0200 ] [ 829241 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Martin - Re: Sure glad to be back where they worship the almighty dollar - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:37:22 +0100, "JohnT" wrote: > >"Mxsmanic" wrote in message >news:usi1l1p5fvpc67tcuak5vnh83f9i9dtvgo@4ax.com... >> Martin writes: >> >>> AFAIR the explosion started in the mid sixties. >> >> There wasn't any explosion. Computers were barely more than >> laboratory curiosities until the PC came along...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:41:24 +0200 ] [ 829239 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Kristian - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - "tim \(moved to sweden\)" wrote: >>>>>The place that benefits is the place where the money goes. >>>> >>>>The money that's paid in salaries is outsourced, but the profits are >>>>not. The former is piddling compared to the latter. >>> >>>and where do the profits of a multinational go? >> >> Into legitimate areas like advertising, design, administr...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:37:22 +0100 ] [ 829237 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"JohnT" - Re: Sure glad to be back where they worship the almighty dollar - "Mxsmanic" wrote in message news:usi1l1p5fvpc67tcuak5vnh83f9i9dtvgo@4ax.com... > Martin writes: > >> AFAIR the explosion started in the mid sixties. > > There wasn't any explosion. Computers were barely more than > laboratory curiosities until the PC came along. > You know as much about this subject as you appear to know about life in general. ...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:32:41 +0200 ] [ 829231 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Martin - Re: Shortwave radio recommendations? - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:39:37 +0300, henry999@eircom.net (Henry) wrote: >Markku Grönroos wrote: > >> "Henry" kirjoitti > >> > Markku Grönroos wrote: >> > >> >> Isn't this just pathetic. >> > >> > No, not at all. What's your problem now? Gone off the meds again? >> >> Not at all, I am back from shoppin...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:31:26 +0200 ] [ 829229 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Mxsmanic - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - Jim Ley writes: > but you just claimed that outsourcing wasn't going to be relevant and > companies existing solely in the current 3rd world will just rise up > sending the current first world into massive decline. Uh, no, I didn't. Outsourcing is transferring technology and skills that will help the Third World to improve its situation. At the same time, it is draining technol...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:30:17 +0200 ] [ 829227 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Mxsmanic - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - A Human Being writes: > Shouldn't everybody get a chance ? Sure. And everybody does, eventually (and in general terms). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. . ...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:29:00 +0200 ] [ 829226 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Mxsmanic - Re: Ryanair apology for ejecting blind group - JohnT writes: > It does seem to me that the only loss of life which you seek to minimise is > your own. How did you arrive at this conclusion? Be specific. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. . ...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:28:29 +0200 ] [ 829224 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Mxsmanic - Re: Sure glad to be back where they worship the almighty dollar - Martin writes: > AFAIR the explosion started in the mid sixties. There wasn't any explosion. Computers were barely more than laboratory curiosities until the PC came along. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. . ...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:22:00 GMT ] [ 829222 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:01:23 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: >michaelnewport@yahoo.com writes: > >> My current employers management spends a lot effort on outsourcing IT >> instead of just addressing the actual problems. > >Companies outsource because all they look at is payroll costs. They >seem to forget everything else. They forget, for example, that the >peop...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:18:15 GMT ] [ 829220 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:41:08 +0200, "tim \(moved to sweden\)" wrote: >You've missed the point of the arguement wnich is: >that by outsourcing the better paid jobs, workers in >the home country will have less disposable income >to spend. but this is based solely on the supposition that a job moving from area A to area B, harms A completely. Thi...
[ 15 Oct 2005 02:17:44 -0700 ] [ 829219 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
"A Human Being" - Re: Unilever considers outsourcing IT, HR jobs - Mxsmanic wrote: > A Human Being writes: > > > It came to the West first, so they were the first to benefit > > Yes, but they won't be the last. Shouldn't everybody get a chance ? > -- > Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. . ...
[ Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:14:10 +0200 ] [ 829217 ] [ rec.travel.europe ] [ view full article ]
Martin - Re: Sure glad to be back where they worship the almighty dollar - On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:25:46 +0100, "Keith W" wrote: >Mixi starts quibbling again, a sure sign he knows he has >lost the argument. > >Missiles that require rentry vehicles (all ICBM's) by >definition fly through space. I knew he had lost it 12 hours ago, when he started snipping context. -- Martin . ...
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