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Nesgroup address: alt.building.construction - Date & Time for the message: 15 Jun 2005 07:48:55 -0700 /

Author of the message: "RicodJour"

Title of the message:
Re: protecting 4x4 fence posts set in concrete

Text of the message:
Josh wrote:

> "RicodJour"wrote in message
> > A 4x4 going from 25% moisture to 15% will shrink ~1/16".
> > http://www.cwc.ca/design/tools/calcs/dimension_calc/
> > Warping and twisting of the wood more than makes up for that.
>
>
> If it's got 1/16" play where it meets concrete, it's got more movement than
> 1/16th" at the top of the post.

If you bury a third of the post, pretty standard, the top will move
double the sixteenth if there's absolutely no twisting or warping.  And
that's only in the direction normal to the plane of the fence as it's
constrained by the fence boards/rails.

> I would never count on something warping and twisting, and building in hopes
> of.

I couldn't imagine not expecting PT 4x4s to warp or twist some.  1/16"
is nothing.

> Each their own.

Of course.  Everyone has preferred ways of building.  I was just taking
issue with the part about that tiny amount of movement causeing an



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